Tweet-by-Tweet: “Monitoring, feedback and debriefing. What? When? How?”

 

 

This week’s chat focused on the following theme:

“Monitoring, feedback and debriefing. What? When? How?”

vbenevolofranca

2012-02-16T22:25:35-02:00 In 5 mins #breltchat  will start & ready to discuss: “Monitoring, feedback and debriefing. What? When? How?” In English! Join us.

hoprea

2012-02-16T22:26:21-02:00 RT @vbenevolofranca: In 5 mins #breltchat  will start & ready to discuss: “Monitoring, feedback and debriefing. What? When? How?” In English! Join us.

FlyontheCWall

2012-02-16T22:27:02-02:00 RT @vbenevolofranca: In 5 mins #breltchat  will start & ready to discuss: “Monitoring, feedback and debriefing. What? When? How?” In English! Join us.

lu_bodeman

2012-02-16T22:27:02-02:00 I’m home, and waiting for #breltchat to begin.🙂

vbenevolofranca

2012-02-16T22:27:56-02:00 @lu_bodeman Hi Lucy, gr8 to have you here tonight! #breltchat

lu_bodeman

2012-02-16T22:29:14-02:00 @vbenevolofranca @Raquel_EFL  Hey there, pretty ladies. :)  Ready for another great #breltchat🙂

vbenevolofranca

2012-02-16T22:29:51-02:00 @Raquel_EFL @BrunoELT @hoprea Absolutely! #breltchat

vbenevolofranca

2012-02-16T22:35:36-02:00 @ncguerreiro Good question, perhaps we can talk about monitoring in general and then go onto the productive skills? #breltchat

lu_bodeman

2012-02-16T22:35:38-02:00 Constructive observation and assistance towards learner improvement and autonomy???  #breltchat

lu_bodeman

2012-02-16T22:36:19-02:00 That is SOME question for starters. :))) #breltchat

hoprea

2012-02-16T22:36:23-02:00 Good evening, everyone! #breltchat I’m having some trouble with this new version of Tweetdeck… I want the old one back!!!😦

VeraCostinhas

2012-02-16T22:36:30-02:00 Hello, everyone! #breltchat

vbenevolofranca

2012-02-16T22:36:55-02:00 @VeraCostinhas Gr8 to have you here tonight! #breltchat

sergiopantojajr

2012-02-16T22:37:04-02:00 #breltchat I agree with Valeria

lu_bodeman

2012-02-16T22:37:18-02:00 @hoprea Hi Henrick!!  #breltchat

hoprea

2012-02-16T22:37:56-02:00 @lu_bodeman Ji Lucy!🙂 #breltchat

teresa1999

2012-02-16T22:37:58-02:00 hi everyone! the more learner centered the more opportunities to see stds production and more monitoring of course.#breltchat

ncguerreiro

2012-02-16T22:37:59-02:00 good evening to fellow #breltchat ters!

VeraCostinhas

2012-02-16T22:38:16-02:00 Great to be here! #breltchat

sergiopantojajr

2012-02-16T22:38:53-02:00 Good evening everyone. Glad to be here tonight #breltchat

marcusmurilo

2012-02-16T22:39:31-02:00 It’s abt evaluating Ss’ lgg production in relation to our expectations so we can assist where necessary #breltchat

hoprea

2012-02-16T22:40:03-02:00 RT @marcusmurilo: It’s abt evaluating Ss’ lgg production in relation to our expectations so we can assist where necessary #breltchat

ncguerreiro

2012-02-16T22:40:10-02:00 @BrunoELT @vbenevolofranca ok, so monitoring 1st, I gather? what do u do 2 make ur presence look less menacing? #breltchat

ncguerreiro

2012-02-16T22:41:32-02:00 @marcusmurilo ours expectations and theirs too, why not #breltchat

vbenevolofranca

2012-02-16T22:41:45-02:00 @marcusmurilo @hoprea  yes we will always want to match this to expectation,but is monitoring just about this form of evaluation? #breltchat

hoprea

2012-02-16T22:42:15-02:00 @shirleyteacher Hi Shirley! You’re not too late. We’ve just started! #breltchat

vbenevolofranca

2012-02-16T22:43:06-02:00 @Raquel_EFL How about how we approach learners> I prefer to lower my level to the learners’ level. This this is less menacing. #breltchat

lu_bodeman

2012-02-16T22:43:10-02:00 @vbenevolofranca When s’th comes up ( i.e. a grammar error), wait 4 the right moment 2 address, approach constructively + praise. #breltchat

teresa1999

2012-02-16T22:43:19-02:00 @ncguerreiro #breltchat Attitude is everything. If a teacher is judgemental it doesnt matter whether near or far, he or she intimidates stds

hoprea

2012-02-16T22:43:27-02:00 #breltchat We monitor in order to have something onto which we can base our teaching and avoid overdoing or underdoing things in class.

dand57

2012-02-16T22:43:35-02:00 RT @marcusmurilo: It’s abt evaluating Ss’ lgg production in relation to our expectations so we can assist where necessary #breltchat

ncguerreiro

2012-02-16T22:44:09-02:00 RT @hoprea: #breltchat We monitor in order to have something onto which we can base our teaching and avoid overdoing or underdoing things in class.

vbenevolofranca

2012-02-16T22:44:35-02:00 RT @hoprea:#breltchat We monitor to have something onto which we can base our teaching & avoid overdoing or underdoing things in class.

shirleyteacher

2012-02-16T22:44:48-02:00 @hoprea   @BrunoELT   @Raquel_EFL   *_*  #breltchat yay!  Catchin up with what has\been said so far…😉

dand57

2012-02-16T22:45:02-02:00 RT @teresa1999: @ncguerreiro #breltchat Attitude is everything. If a teacher is judgemental it doesnt matter whether near or far, he or she intimidates stds

pollyspice

2012-02-16T22:45:04-02:00 I just can’t believe I missed another #breltchat!😦

hoprea

2012-02-16T22:45:53-02:00 @pollyspice You haven’t! We’ve just barely started! #BRELTChat

vbenevolofranca

2012-02-16T22:46:02-02:00 @marcusmurilo Yes, oral production is important, as it´s “online” processing – on the go, and difficult for learners.🙂 #breltchat

shirleyteacher

2012-02-16T22:46:16-02:00 RT @hoprea: #breltchat We monitor in order to have something onto which we can base our teaching and avoid overdoing or underdoing things in class.

teresa1999

2012-02-16T22:46:20-02:00 @ncguerreiro #breltchat  sorry,  judgmental

shirleyteacher

2012-02-16T22:46:33-02:00 RT @marcusmurilo: It’s abt evaluating Ss’ lgg production in relation to our expectations so we can assist where necessary #breltchat

pollyspice

2012-02-16T22:47:02-02:00 RT @teresa1999: @ncguerreiro #breltchat Attitude is everything. If a teacher is judgemental it doesnt matter whether near or far, he or she intimidates stds

vbenevolofranca

2012-02-16T22:47:46-02:00 @teresa1999 @dand57 @ncguerreiro Agree 100%- we want to avoid being judgemental – we want to help sts see what they’re producing. #breltchat

ncguerreiro

2012-02-16T22:48:05-02:00 @Raquel_EFL I tried but it actually made me more menacing.I’m heavy.Trying to squat was such an event it scared them.#breltchat

hoprea

2012-02-16T22:48:13-02:00 @teresa1999 What’s wrong with the British spelling?🙂 #BRELTChat

pollyspice

2012-02-16T22:48:24-02:00 RT @shirleyteacher: @hoprea   @BrunoELT   @Raquel_EFL   *_*  #breltchat yay!  Catchin up with what has\been said so far…😉

vbenevolofranca

2012-02-16T22:48:37-02:00 @BrunoELT But does the spoonfeeding come when we’re monitoring or when we deal with correction?#breltchat

hoprea

2012-02-16T22:49:07-02:00 The very first thing to bear in mind is that we monitor to help learners, not to judge them. #BRELTChat

sergiopantojajr

2012-02-16T22:49:20-02:00 @BrunoELT That’s when you have 2 monitor yourself so you don’t end up doing that. #breltchat

teresa1999

2012-02-16T22:49:28-02:00 #breltchat dont know how to spell anymore! I’ve been thinking about it. especially adult stds and I monitored a lot today🙂

lu_bodeman

2012-02-16T22:49:42-02:00 @BrunoELT  Well said (about spoonfeeding). The ‘careful’ I mentioned earlier involves respectg their risk-taking; to err IS human #breltchat

vbenevolofranca

2012-02-16T22:50:09-02:00 @ncguerreiro Think key to effective monitoring is: do what feels natural to us & sts understand this as part of class routine. #breltchat

shirleyteacher

2012-02-16T22:50:10-02:00 RT @hoprea: The very first thing to bear in mind is that we monitor to help learners, not to judge them. #BRELTChat  agree 101%

dand57

2012-02-16T22:50:21-02:00 RT @hoprea: The very first thing to bear in mind is that we monitor to help learners, not to judge them. #BRELTChat

teresa1999

2012-02-16T22:50:48-02:00 @hoprea #breltchat Got confused! Just checked and both are possible. lol! happens often!

hoprea

2012-02-16T22:51:30-02:00 The first feedback we provide our learners with is the affective feedback. If this doesn’t go well, it’s all downhill. #BRELTChat

amorim_kelly

2012-02-16T22:51:43-02:00 Since yesterday I’ve been really sick. I won’t be able to join  #breltchat 2day😦

teresa1999

2012-02-16T22:51:48-02:00 #breltchat @hoprea English spellings have more letters in the words. not good for twitter. lol!

hoprea

2012-02-16T22:51:59-02:00 @teresa1999 You’re not alone! It does happen quite often!🙂 #BRELTChat

ncguerreiro

2012-02-16T22:52:13-02:00 @BrunoELT on the other hand monitoring may be a chance to scaffold the task for some. scaffolding, not spoonfeeding. #breltchat

lu_bodeman

2012-02-16T22:52:16-02:00 @amorim_kelly Uh oh. Get well soon, Kelly.  #breltchat

vbenevolofranca

2012-02-16T22:52:20-02:00 @amorim_kelly Get better Kelly. See you next time then. #breltchat

ncguerreiro

2012-02-16T22:52:39-02:00 @teresa1999 @hoprea haha touche! #breltchat

VeraCostinhas

2012-02-16T22:52:50-02:00 #breltchat We also monitor to be able to give sts more individualized feedback.

hoprea

2012-02-16T22:53:13-02:00 @amorim_kelly We can still let you do the summary… hehehehe #BRELTChat

vbenevolofranca

2012-02-16T22:53:37-02:00 @VeraCostinhas Exactly, monitoring is an opportunity to go from macro to micro in classroom #breltchat

pollyspice

2012-02-16T22:53:52-02:00 If we do not monitor, how can we give feedback? #breltchat

teresa1999

2012-02-16T22:54:02-02:00 #breltchat stds also need to see teacher is listening to them and not only passing by. especially adults. affective mode on!

pollyspice

2012-02-16T22:54:13-02:00 RT @teresa1999: #breltchat stds also need to see teacher is listening to them and not only passing by. especially adults. affective mode on!

ncguerreiro

2012-02-16T22:54:18-02:00 RT @VeraCostinhas: #breltchat We also monitor to be able to give sts more individualized feedback.

hoprea

2012-02-16T22:54:24-02:00 We monitor to gauge how far or near we are from getting where we expected to get and inform our teaching. #BRELTChat

lu_bodeman

2012-02-16T22:54:38-02:00 RT @teresa1999: #breltchat stds also need to see teacher is listening to them and not only passing by. especially adults. affective mode on!

shirleyteacher

2012-02-16T22:54:46-02:00 Monitoring makes Ss feel we’r there 4them. And if wer supposed to give them feedback, they have to feel we collect genuine data.  #breltchat

hoprea

2012-02-16T22:55:01-02:00 Monitoring also allows us to go from pre-emptive teaching to reactive teaching.🙂 #BRELTChat

vbenevolofranca

2012-02-16T22:55:13-02:00 RT @hoprea: Monitoring also allows us to go from pre-emptive teaching to reactive teaching.🙂 #BRELTChat

pollyspice

2012-02-16T22:55:24-02:00 RT @lu_bodeman: RT @teresa1999: #breltchat stds also need to see teacher is listening to them and not only passing by. especially adults. affective mode on!

ncguerreiro

2012-02-16T22:55:38-02:00 RT @hoprea: Monitoring also allows us to go from pre-emptive teaching to reactive teaching.🙂 #BRELTChat

hoprea

2012-02-16T22:56:07-02:00 I think we’re covered the reason why we monitor. How about the HOW? #BRELTChat

ncguerreiro

2012-02-16T22:56:36-02:00 i see replies to tweets, but not the tweets that motivated them. argh! #breltchat

ncguerreiro

2012-02-16T22:56:51-02:00 RT @lu_bodeman: RT @teresa1999: #breltchat stds also need to see teacher is listening to them and not only passing by. especially adults. affective mode on!

vbenevolofranca

2012-02-16T22:56:54-02:00 “@hoprea: I think we’re covered the reason why we monitor. How about the HOW? #BRELTChat”>HOW may be related to when as well.

shirleyteacher

2012-02-16T22:57:38-02:00 RT @lu_bodeman: RT @teresa1999: #breltchat stds also need to see teacher is listening to them and not only passing by. especially adults. affective mode on!

amorim_kelly

2012-02-16T22:58:38-02:00 Thank you, everyone, for your  kind words. I’ll go to bed now….I’m burning up with fever…promise to do another one @hoprea🙂 #breltchat

vbenevolofranca

2012-02-16T22:58:48-02:00 @Raquel_EFL we monitor for all the pts you mentioned:llg, content, attitude etc. But focus may change according to activity #breltchat

hoprea

2012-02-16T22:59:28-02:00 @vbenevolofranca How and when do we monitor? Absolutely right!🙂 #BRELTChat

vbenevolofranca

2012-02-16T23:00:07-02:00 @BrunoELT @hoprea I’m always puzzled by this “vanishing” bit – never quite managed that!!! #breltchat

sergiopantojajr

2012-02-16T23:00:28-02:00 @ncguerreiro Good point! I usually record my stds so that they can see how much they’ve improved over a certain period of time. #breltchat

ncguerreiro

2012-02-16T23:00:39-02:00 how: sometimes making a conscious effort to quickly leave teacher leeches, the ones who don’t think other sts may need u 2 lol #breltchat

teresa1999

2012-02-16T23:00:59-02:00 #breltchat I vary a lot. sometimes I join my stds and listen and ask them ” hmm, Isn’t there a more specific word we can use for…?”

pollyspice

2012-02-16T23:00:59-02:00 I also ask HOW to monitor students? Monitoring is not only passing by students’ chairs and check on what they’re doing #breltchat

vbenevolofranca

2012-02-16T23:01:10-02:00 @sergiopantojajr @ncguerreiro How do you deal with the recordings afterwards? This is a gr8 strategy. #breltchat

hoprea

2012-02-16T23:01:11-02:00 If we answer the question “why did I ask my students to do this?” we’re halfway there to know how to do it properly! #BRELTChat

VeraCostinhas

2012-02-16T23:01:34-02:00 #breltchat I would say we monitor all the time, but in different ways depending on the pattern of interaction.

lu_bodeman

2012-02-16T23:02:39-02:00 Checking back on what was said. Dog is acting weird tonite so I’m on and off.😦 #breltchat

shirleyteacher

2012-02-16T23:03:10-02:00 RT @VeraCostinhas: #breltchat I would say we monitor all the time, but in different ways depending on the pattern of interaction.

shirleyteacher

2012-02-16T23:03:14-02:00 RT @hoprea: If we answer the question “why did I ask my students to do this?” we’re halfway there to know how to do it properly! #BRELTChat

vbenevolofranca

2012-02-16T23:04:29-02:00 @Raquel_EFL @teresa1999 But isn´t this related to the issue of how we rpovide feedback? Does it happen on the go or afterwards? #breltchat

ncguerreiro

2012-02-16T23:04:47-02:00 @sergiopantojajr super! i keep forgetting 2 do recordings. n they’re great. #breltchat

hoprea

2012-02-16T23:04:58-02:00 Trying the third twitter client to follow tonight’s chat…😦 #BRELTChat

vbenevolofranca

2012-02-16T23:05:11-02:00 @BrunoELT @Raquel_EFL Scrivener will be at the ABCI Conference….#breltchat Maybe BrazTesol as well.

fionamau

2012-02-16T23:05:30-02:00 Here’s a mini macappella word game for you http://t.co/UXTZd7Fc Have a go! #eltchat #breltchat #efl #esl #TESOLSpain #dogme

hoprea

2012-02-16T23:05:51-02:00 Who here has taught peers to monitor and record samples of languages in the classroom? #BRELTChat

vbenevolofranca

2012-02-16T23:06:34-02:00 @hoprea Getting peers to record their own oral work & then analyse it works wonders! Have done it before. #breltchat

teresa1999

2012-02-16T23:06:37-02:00 #breltchat Once recorded my advanced stds.   it was part of an activity and they gave each other feedback. worked beautifully but it’s risky

vbenevolofranca

2012-02-16T23:06:59-02:00 @teresa1999 Why risky? #breltchat

fionamau

2012-02-16T23:07:16-02:00 #breltchat Sorry! I just interrupted your chat! Monitoring, right? And you’re tweeting in English…🙂 Can I stick around for 10 minutes?

sergiopantojajr

2012-02-16T23:07:22-02:00 @vbenevolofranca @ncguerreiro Been doing it at the end of each unit.I assign a speaking task & record them using audacity/voxopop #breltchat

hoprea

2012-02-16T23:07:24-02:00 RT @vbenevolofranca: @hoprea Getting peers to record their own oral work & then analyse it works wonders! Have done it before. #BRELTChat

ncguerreiro

2012-02-16T23:07:46-02:00 @vbenevolofranca @hoprea never thought of that. do peers record content or form? can they pay att to both? #breltchat

vbenevolofranca

2012-02-16T23:08:13-02:00 @fionamau Lovely to have you here. Discussing peers doing peer monitoring, correction & feedback. #breltchat

shirleyteacher

2012-02-16T23:08:17-02:00 RT @lu_bodeman: Dog is acting weird tonite so I’m on and off.😦 #breltchat Your dog and my twiter app r weird 2nite!😛

lu_bodeman

2012-02-16T23:08:29-02:00 @vbenevolofranca @ncguerreiro @sergiopantojair  Loved the idea of videofolios … cool!!! #breltchat

vbenevolofranca

2012-02-16T23:08:53-02:00 @ncguerreiro @hoprea Brilliant question and guess what, depending on level, yes they can – form and content! #breltchat

hoprea

2012-02-16T23:08:56-02:00 @ncguerreiro @vbenevolofranca It depends on the level, but I think it works best if they focus on 1 thing per class. #BRELTChat

lu_bodeman

2012-02-16T23:09:03-02:00 RT @vbenevolofranca: @BrunoELT @Raquel_EFL Scrivener will be at the ABCI Conference….#breltchat Maybe BrazTesol as well. >Awesome!

fionamau

2012-02-16T23:09:09-02:00 RT @fionamau: @vbenevolofranca Aha! Peer monitoring is great. #breltchat

fionamau

2012-02-16T23:09:30-02:00 RT @lu_bodeman: RT @vbenevolofranca: @BrunoELT @Raquel_EFL Scrivener will be at the ABCI Conference….#breltchat Maybe BrazTesol as well. >Awesome!

ncguerreiro

2012-02-16T23:09:32-02:00 @vbenevolofranca @teresa1999 i can imagine it’d be risky. depends on group dynamics. #breltchat

fionamau

2012-02-16T23:11:03-02:00 @Raquel_EFL #breltchat I don’t know yet…

hoprea

2012-02-16T23:11:09-02:00 If you can’t create a friendly and safe environment in ur classroom, don’t go for peer correction. First things first. #BRELTChat

lu_bodeman

2012-02-16T23:11:33-02:00 RT @vbenevolofranca: @hoprea Getting peers to record their own oral work & then analyse it …  #breltchat  >> Good one.

fionamau

2012-02-16T23:12:03-02:00 @hoprea #breltchat Agreed. Peer correction depends on that safe environment feeling, integration into ‘The Tribe’.

teresa1999

2012-02-16T23:12:06-02:00 #breltchat @ncguerreiro I’d try this again depending on the group. i asked them to point out 2 good things and 2points for improvement.

ncguerreiro

2012-02-16T23:12:13-02:00 @shirleyteacher also exposing interesting vocab/pron/grammar 1 or more of them has used, to focus on good points too #breltchat

vbenevolofranca

2012-02-16T23:12:24-02:00 RT @ncguerreiro: @vbenevolofranca @teresa1999 i can imagine it’d be risky. depends on group dynamics. #breltchat

pollyspice

2012-02-16T23:12:33-02:00 RT @fionamau: @hoprea #breltchat Agreed. Peer correction depends on that safe environment feeling, integration into ‘The Tribe’.

sergiopantojajr

2012-02-16T23:12:39-02:00 @lu_bodeman I try 2 keep things as tangible as possible. The more visible progress becomes, the better. #breltchat It keeps stds motivated.

shirleyteacher

2012-02-16T23:13:28-02:00 #breltchat >on content?language? On both @BrunoELT!;) Hardly ever make distinction between them.Or,depending  the aim is accuracyor fluency

lu_bodeman

2012-02-16T23:13:43-02:00 @sergiopantojajr Great. I’ll need to try it out; haven’t worked with audacity/voxopop before.🙂 Thx 4 that.  #breltchat

ncguerreiro

2012-02-16T23:13:44-02:00 @teresa1999 i’ve done that for presentations. 4 interactions i believe peer monitoring can be demanding. i’ll give it a try! #breltchat

shirleyteacher

2012-02-16T23:14:33-02:00 RT @ncguerreiro: @shirleyteacher also exposing interesting vocab/pron/grammar used, to focus on good points too #breltchat  *_* Sure Natalia

fionamau

2012-02-16T23:14:47-02:00 @BrunoELT Debriefing in the sense of ‘How did that go?’ or in the sense of ‘What did u learn frm yr partner?’ #breltchat

vbenevolofranca

2012-02-16T23:14:58-02:00 @lu_bodeman @sergiopantojajr Colleague @Guipac uses Voxopop very effectively, it can be really useful #breltchat

lu_bodeman

2012-02-16T23:15:08-02:00 @fionamau Hi Fiona. Welcome. :)  #breltchat

ncguerreiro

2012-02-16T23:15:39-02:00 @shirleyteacher i know u do that, just adding. =D tweets r too short. #breltchat

hoprea

2012-02-16T23:15:51-02:00 What exactly do you guys mean when you say “monitoring content”? I do believe I’ve got it backwards… #BRELTChat

fionamau

2012-02-16T23:16:09-02:00 @lu_bodeman #breltchat Thank you! I must admit, tho, I’m half asleep – it’s after 2am

shirleyteacher

2012-02-16T23:16:46-02:00 RT @Raquel_EFL:#breltchat or if it’s a text-task used 2 make students notice sum lgg form > at ths stage, I’d giv feedback on content  \o/;)

teresa1999

2012-02-16T23:16-02:00 #breltchat @ncguerreiro used to record stds loads of time in business english classes. feedback was essential and self-awareness crucial

teresa1999

2012-02-16T23:17:43-02:00 @hoprea #breltchat making sure they are expanding topic. teenagers tend to answer yes or no and miss the opportunity to speak.

hoprea

2012-02-16T23:17:54-02:00 @fionamau You’re an English teacher! 2am for us is the same as 8 pm for the average joe!🙂 #BRELTChat

lu_bodeman

2012-02-16T23:18:02-02:00 @vbenevolofranca I’ll have to check with @Guipac about that. Thanks, Valeria! #breltchat

fionamau

2012-02-16T23:18:51-02:00 @BrunoELT #breltchat ‘What did you learn frm yr partner?’ goes ok, if you give time for them to make notes on what their partner told them

lu_bodeman

2012-02-16T23:18:55-02:00 @fionamau Oh dear!  It’s only 10:18PM for me and I’m almost there, too. #breltchat

hoprea

2012-02-16T23:19:05-02:00 @teresa1999 Hmmm… so I did get it wrong… thanks for clearing it to me, Teresa!🙂 #BRELTChat

ncguerreiro

2012-02-16T23:19:07-02:00 #breltchat keeping it tangible esp impt 4 interm/adv plateau i think. i’ve given them slips of paper w/ their ind feedback. they loved it!

ncguerreiro

2012-02-16T23:19:44-02:00 RT @teresa1999: @hoprea #breltchat making sure they are expanding topic. teenagers tend to answer yes or no and miss the opportunity to speak.

fionamau

2012-02-16T23:20:24-02:00 @hoprea #breltchat Hahaha🙂 I had a coffee to try and stay awake, but… I don’t think it’s working….

teresa1999

2012-02-16T23:20:33-02:00 @ncguerreiro Great idea! #breltchat

pollyspice

2012-02-16T23:20:47-02:00 RT @teresa1999: @hoprea #breltchat making sure they are expanding topic. teenagers tend to answer yes or no and miss the opportunity to speak.

shirleyteacher

2012-02-16T23:20:52-02:00 RT @teresa1999: @hoprea #breltchat making sure they are expanding topic. teenagers tend to answer yes or no and miss the opportunity to speak.

ncguerreiro

2012-02-16T23:21:06-02:00 #breltchat debriefing’s also good for discussing learning/speaking strategies and gauging how they felt abt task.

shirleyteacher

2012-02-16T23:21:50-02:00 RT @teresa1999: @hoprea #breltchat making sure they are expanding topic. modelling is mandatory so that it happens don u think Teresa?

hoprea

2012-02-16T23:21:52-02:00 RT @ncguerreiro: debriefings also good for discussing learning/speaking strategies and gauging how they felt abt task. #BRELTChat

vbenevolofranca

2012-02-16T23:21:57-02:00 @fionamau Time 4 debriefing is a crucial point,something we need 2 include when planning lessons, it´s not “…oh, by the way…” #breltchat

ncguerreiro

2012-02-16T23:22:06-02:00 @teresa1999 i agree. that’s crucial in ESP w/ adult learners. #breltchat

teresa1999

2012-02-16T23:22:36-02:00 @fionamau #breltchat asking them about their partner makes them listen to each other. speaking activities become more authentic.

fionamau

2012-02-16T23:22:46-02:00 @vbenevolofranca #breltchat Time is important for most things, for processing, for preparing to speak – esp fr debriefing

fionamau

2012-02-16T23:23:41-02:00 @teresa1999 #breltchat Definitely. Listening for content, preparing to report back, giving a thumbs up on pronunciation…

lu_bodeman

2012-02-16T23:23:43-02:00 Need to sign off, everyone. Sorry about that. Take care, and for fellow Brazilians … have a great #Carnaval!!!  #breltchat

vbenevolofranca

2012-02-16T23:24:29-02:00 @lu_bodeman Lovely to have you with us Lu, thanks! #breltchat

teresa1999

2012-02-16T23:25:43-02:00 #breltchat before assigning a speaking task give them time to think about what they are going to say and how to expand ideas.

fionamau

2012-02-16T23:26:12-02:00 #breltchat But debriefing eg after reading,of ‘what did u learn/surprised u most?’ type doesn’t work well unless there’s a speakin stage 1st

hoprea

2012-02-16T23:26:25-02:00 @fionamau I’m still having probls w/ content 4 anything else but an opportunity 4 lgg use. Maybe I’m reading to much into it… #BRELTChat

vbenevolofranca

2012-02-16T23:26:33-02:00 “@teresa1999: #breltchat before assigning speaking task give time to think about what they are going to say & how to expand ideas.”>Yes!

shirleyteacher

2012-02-16T23:27:20-02:00 RT @lu_bodeman: Need to sign off,everyone. Sorry bout that.Take care,and4 fellow Brazilians have a gr8 #Carnaval!!!  #breltchat same 2u hun!

fionamau

2012-02-16T23:27:47-02:00 RT @teresa1999: #breltchat re. give them time to think about what they are going to say > I often tell them the next day’s topic the day b4

fionamau

2012-02-16T23:27-02:00 RT @teresa1999: #breltchat before assigning a speaking task give them time to think about what they are going to say and how to expand ideas.

hoprea

2012-02-16T23:28:29-02:00 Give them some useful language that will help them focus on WHAT they want to say. #BRELTChat

ncguerreiro

2012-02-16T23:28:39-02:00 @hoprea @fionamau #BRELTCHAT but if lgg is 4 communication, they’ll comm content, right? it makes sense 2 respond 2 that too, doesn’t it?

fionamau

2012-02-16T23:29:52-02:00 @ncguerreiro #breltchat yes, but they often need a speak to yr partner stage, to scaffold the language b4 reporting to whole class

hoprea

2012-02-16T23:30:09-02:00 @ncguerreiro @fionamau As long as we’re not judging WHAT they’re saying, I completely agree with you. #BRELTChat

teresa1999

2012-02-16T23:30:16-02:00 #breltchat I asked my P3 today to ask why and how come? to encourage their partners to expand ideas. they must get out of comfort zone!

vbenevolofranca

2012-02-16T23:30:33-02:00 @ncguerreiro @hoprea Do you mean the message or the idea they want to express by content? #breltchat

ncguerreiro

2012-02-16T23:30:55-02:00 @fionamau sure #breltchat

hoprea

2012-02-16T23:31:41-02:00 @ncguerreiro @fionamau my fear is that I’ve seen teachers getting angry because they disagreed with what the student said. #breltchat

shirleyteacher

2012-02-16T23:32:02-02:00 I like the 3 questions @Raquel_EFL  suggested. #breltchat

ncguerreiro

2012-02-16T23:32:11-02:00 @hoprea @fionamau that’s controversial but we could go down that lane some day. would u allow racist remarks 2 go by unchecked? #breltchat

ncguerreiro

2012-02-16T23:33:03-02:00 RT @shirleyteacher: I like the 3 questions @Raquel_EFL  suggested. #breltchat

hoprea

2012-02-16T23:33:12-02:00 @vbenevolofranca @ncguerreiro a-ha! There you go… The words I was looking for! Thanks Valeria!!🙂 #breltchat

shirleyteacher

2012-02-16T23:33:44-02:00 @hoprea we CAN’T judge what theyr sayin. Teachers must b more impartial  than judges concerning that!  ;)  #breltchat

fionamau

2012-02-16T23:35:38-02:00 @ncguerreiro #breltchat I’ve had homophobic & racist students, but generally the other students sort it out – I keep order…

ncguerreiro

2012-02-16T23:36:18-02:00 @vbenevolofranca i wasn’t talking abt that at 1st, but when @hoprea mentioned judging it made me think abt when it’s necessary #breltchat

fionamau

2012-02-16T23:36:36-02:00 RT @hoprea @ncguerreiro @vbenevolofranca that’s the point. Things shouldn’t get that far in the first place #breltchat > No, but it happens

shirleyteacher

2012-02-16T23:37:02-02:00 @ncguerreiro no racism, yet,Ts must have another Ss sayin sumthin bout it instead of giving Ts own point o’view immediatelly😉 #breltchat

vbenevolofranca

2012-02-16T23:38:16-02:00 I can write the summary this time…do it over the next few days IF I have access to the tweets…..#breltchat

ncguerreiro

2012-02-16T23:38:30-02:00 @hoprea sure that’s why we always have an aviation expert w/ us. plus the other sts r all experts too in an esp situation. #breltchat

ncguerreiro

2012-02-16T23:38:55-02:00 i’d volunteer but i don’t think i’m reading all the tweets.😦 #breltchat

fionamau

2012-02-16T23:38:56-02:00 #breltchat Woah! nearly 2.40am!! I’ve got to sleep! See you again soon, and thanks for letting me join in. Night night & enjoy carnavales.

vbenevolofranca

2012-02-16T23:39:50-02:00 @fionamau Thanks for joingin us Fiona…looking forward to the rest over the next few days…#breltchat

ncguerreiro

2012-02-16T23:39:52-02:00 @fionamau tks 4 dropping by.😀 #breltchat sleep tight!

teresa1999

2012-02-16T23:40:26-02:00 #breltchat racist comments are awful so I ask std why he or she is saying that  and challenge them with more questions.

fionamau

2012-02-16T23:41:38-02:00 RT @ncguerreiro tks 4 dropping by.😀 #breltchat sleep tight! > Thank u! Nice to ‘meet’ you. Sweet dreams…

hoprea

2012-02-16T23:41:50-02:00 @ncguerreiro I’m not saying we just leave content aside, I was just wondering how much we should fixate on content.🙂 #breltchat

vbenevolofranca

2012-02-16T23:42:06-02:00 Dear #breltchat colleagues, time to round this off. It´s been gr8 to share ideas. Thanks to fellow moderators @hoprea @BrunoELT @Raquel_EFL

teresa1999

2012-02-16T23:42:51-02:00 #breltchat I show them the “bus theory”  if you were on a bus sitting next to a stranger would you say this? why or why not? works with kids

hoprea

2012-02-16T23:43:02-02:00 Many thanks for another #breltchat everyone!🙂 have a great holiday!🙂

pollyspice

2012-02-16T23:43:57-02:00 #breltchat Have a great holiday! Sorry I wasn’t able to participate much this time.

teresa1999

2012-02-16T23:44:29-02:00 #breltchat good night. It’s been a long day. bye bye everyone!

ncguerreiro

2012-02-16T23:46:03-02:00 RT @teresa1999: #breltchat I show them the “bus theory”  if you were on a bus sitting next to a stranger would you say this? why or why not? works with kids

 


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